Wow. Those people are completely insane. I'm so sorry that you had to experience that vitriol, Jonathan, but I am very impressed with you for having the courage to stand up to the lunacy of hatred.
My word! Why host a 'debate' about anything if you do not allow to it be one? Why pretend to engage critically with the topic? They started shrieking before he'd even really said much. Academia is very much divided on these issues and the ICJ itself listens to both sides, so why are a group of 20-something students at the Oxford Union not worthy of it? Even if you vehemently disagree, listening to and understanding opposing views helps you to better articulate your own case. Isn't that the point of university?
I think it's less to do with the Oxford Union and much more to do with that most people there are Middle Easterners. The people of the Middle East have _always_ been like this, whatever their sectarian background
@@splinterbyrd Precisely ! The benefits of UNDERSTANDING concepts of logic, reason, and debate, have YET to be bequeathed by a much needed period of "Enlightenment" Until then, that culture is based on domination by who can shout loudest or even threatening v**olence
This was so hard to listen to. I am not Jewish and I am afraid of the direction our world once again seems to be taking. You did an excellent job of staying calm and getting your points across in front of such a hostile audience. Thank you, Jonathan. Am Yisrael chai.
I agree. Kids today have been taught a falsehood. Your war crimes are well documented because your people are happily showing the murder they commit on social media. Grow a heartbeat and a moral compass.
You wish. The reality, of course, is that they've been witness to the world's most documented - in real-time - genocide and the apartheid reality has become more well known due to all the major human rights organisations declaring it as such, culminating with the announcement by the ICJ. The highest legal authority on the planet.
Right…but your generation that had no access to internet growing up or live social media footage, having to rely on whatever the news said, totally aren’t indoctrinated 💀
@@jchan9761 This is the problem. The Leftists look at the "facts" that come from Hamas. Sensible people look at the actual facts on the ground, not what the terrorists say, member the hospital with 500 killed, you know the one, the one where it took the Fake News BBC 6+ hours to report the obvious truth that was all over social media and we could literally see the lies live. Also worth noting that that rocket killed 5-15 palistinians and was fired by "Islamic Jihad" (Comrades of Hamas) at Israel, it failed, Fake News erupted from Hamas, picked up on by all of the Leftist "news" like the BBC. that is just one example. Unless you wake up soon, you will get a shock when reality hits.
@@SilentMoment60Of course they read, nothing but Hamas and Palestinian propaganda that is. If you are to actually read the primary sources, see reports from both sides of the conflict and consider how reality works, you will not be making your comment.
Yes, the Zionists victim card has reached it's expiration. Fun fact: US News and World Report (owned by a Jew) ranked Israel in 2021 as the fifth most racist country of 196 on earth. Over 60% of Israeli Jews believe Jews are superior to non jews.
Sometimes I feel that defending ourselves in these forums feeds into the dynamic of the haters. As if we need to excuse and justify our right to exist. They all know that these are lies. They enjoy seeing us abused and gaslighted, while begging for them to stop abusing us. No different than any toxic relationship
see it differently: Israeli soldiers fight for Israels existence, young men give their life for that. We are on the 8th front of Israels war; the propaganda war, doing our very tiny bit, risking very little. We should be proud to do our bit, however little it may seem to us. Hamas very obviously relied on propaganda and support from the lefties / wokies / islamists in the west, all along them waging war and holding the hostages. Who knows what would have happened, had they not had all that? Who is to say it wouldn´t all have been over with a lot sooner, if the US didn´t have to navigate the opposition within, not to mention the UK and the European countries. The Hamas´propaganda war on the west, together with the wokies (for simpilicity) cheering them on in the west, really worked. Giving up, letting them go on, won´t work, both for Israel, and for our own countries, we can make our voices heard. Address their toxicity, confront them with facts. Or, if you´re not in combattive mood, post a simple ❤Israel, Am Israel chai (long live Israel) They hate that.
If justifying your right to exist means slauthering tens of thousands of children and babies calling them human animals or terrorists and wiping another group in its entirity, well then I reckon the world has the right to question the morality and condemn your actions
As far am concerned any one who describes the war started by Hamas in Gaza as genocide is not only an anti-Semite but highly ignorant of the true meaning of genocide which is clearly stated in the dictionary.
Per voi, ormai, sono TUTTI antisemiti: la corte penale internazionale, unhwra, ONU e chiunque provi a fare notare che quanto sta accadendo a Gaza è inaccettabile. Purtroppo i presupposti genocidari ci sono tutti, ma se vuoi credere alle frottole di Netanyahu...
Hamas' invasion (which was in itself a false flag event) was a hostage-taking situation, not an attempted genocide. People in an open air concentration camp are hardly in a position to start a war with their persecutors.
@@daveparkes2355 500,000+ killed in Syria - silence. 377,000+ killed in Yemen - silence. 5,400,000+ killed in Congo - silence. 236,000+ killed in Afghanistan - silence. 500,000+ killed in Sudan - silence. 300,000+ killed in Iraq - silence. 350,000+ killed in Nigeria - silence. 40,000+ killed in Gaza - extreme outrage. (Very strange how Abduls get riled up and Liberals follow suit only when Israel defends itself.)
@@daveparkes2355 7 / 10 wasnt really a genocide, its true. I think he said so to give an illustration of the scenes common in a purposeful genocide. No such scenes are done by idf inside of Gaza, even if its very true, people are dying en masse inside of Gaza.
I applaud Mr. Sacerdoti's bravery to continue speaking, in the face of the incessant heckling and cursing. It's difficult for me even listen to it, let alone imagine what it was like to try to speak in such a forum. The "apartheid" accusation, I believe, started in 2001 at the Durban Conference. Ironically, that occurred almost right after Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered Yassir Arafat a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza, which Arafat puzzlingly refused, and instead initiated the Second Intifada. If Chairman Arafat had accepted PM Barak's offer, Israel would have ended the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, and all accusations of Israel being guilty of apartheid would be moot.
It seems that most of the young ‘educated elite’ HAVE lost their “sense of reason “ that Jonathan tries to appeal to in such a dignified manner. We seem to be revisiting an era that we hoped wouldn’t return. Last time we had nowhere to turn. This time we do.
Great speech! I hope that even those who screemed "lies" will come home and think a bit more about what they have heard, and maybe this will give a little move to their brains. Thank you! From Israel with ❤
@steviethedog Absolutely agree, it makes me fear that this generation will become future lawyers, judges, corporate executives etc with their distorted opinions and biased hatred.
Maybe because this guy's arguments are such utter nonsense rooted in some alternate reality. It's a fact that Israel is an apartheid state. It fits the definition perfectly. And it's a fact that they are currently carrying out a genocide. These things need not be debated, and when clowns try to dispute reality they should be heckled, mocked and dismissed.
Kol hakavod. That was very difficult to listen to. I cannot imagine the strength it took for you to maintain your composure. As per usual, you were articulate and on point. Thank you for the amazing work that you do.
It was hard to listen to because he's so full of it. Good on the union for rejecting this nonsense and labeling Israel what it is: an ethno-state that oppresses Palestinians and works to kill or purge them from the land. The world will not turn a blind eye to this any longer. Free Palestine.
Boy Jonathan, you have some balls giving that speech to those woke morons…. I wish someday I’ll be able to share your optimism for the other sides ability to reason
Who are these idiots that are heckling and behaving in this way? Students? How on earth did they get into university? I thought you had to have a bit of intelligence.
@@SuperKripke Any consideration of the issue that does not include the Abraham Accords side of things is shallow and not worthy of serious consideration.
Educational standards have been eroded for the last 30-40 years such that students even in the top universities these days are on a similar cerebral level to the Secondary Modern sink schools of the 1970s. The fact that so many of these students have origins from backward societies is of no surprise.
lol😂 how about before 7th of October?? They been under blockade for 17 years by air, sea and land. They were being bombed and shot at for years before 7th of October
@@johndoe-vc1we Irrelevant question. Tell us how many Palestinians have been murdered since Oct 8th, why there are no schools, mosques, hospitals, homes, basic infrastructure, etc left. Why are so many children found with sniper shots to the head and chest? Israel is and always has been a racist, apartheid, settler, colonial state born on the bodies of murdered Palestinians. Shameful.
Those 278 people who believe Israel is guilty of apartheid and genocide will one day be powerful voices in British life. Anybody looking forward to that future?
The world is changing. People are turning away from elite universities. They've all been indoctrinated. Those 278 students will wind up in the dustbin of history, laughed at and ridiculed as they dare to laugh at & ridicule those who stood there bravely & spoke truth & facts in the face of their heinous hatred & lies. 278 lost souls who are going no where very fast.
Turned out that Oxford is NOT "better than that," NOT "smarter than that," & NOT "open to hearing different views." Over a year later these people are just more cemented into their fictions. THANK YOU FOR YOU WORK, Jonathan.
They were not there to listen. You however, did brilliantly and held such admirable respect and patience. Bravo. Oxford should be ashamed at this arrangement.
1. Privileged Dismissal: The treatment of Yoseph Haddad reflects a privileged attitude where outsiders assume moral authority over complex issues without valuing the lived experiences of those directly involved. 2. Racism and Bias: By dismissing Haddad’s voice as an Arab Israeli, the Oxford Union displayed an undercurrent of racism, ignoring the diversity of perspectives within Arab and Israeli communities. 3. Tokenism: Inviting Haddad to speak but sidelining or silencing him suggests performative inclusion rather than a genuine effort to engage with differing viewpoints. 4. Selective Outrage: The Union’s focus on Israel, while neglecting comparable issues elsewhere, highlights double standards and a tendency to oversimplify complex realities. 5. Reality of Terrorism: Hassan Nasrallah, as the leader of Hezbollah, has been directly linked to the killing of Americans and is widely recognized as a terrorist. Expressing offense at Haddad’s critique of Nasrallah reflects either ignorance of this fact or a skewed moral stance. 6. Missed Opportunity for Dialogue: Silencing Haddad prevented meaningful discussion and reinforced polarization, rather than fostering understanding or empathy.
In purely historical terms the whole Israel situation pales into insignificance alongside the pretty much simultaneous creation of Pakistan, Kashmir and Bangladesh. What is it about the displacement of 700,000 Arabs when placed alongside the 5,000,000 Hindus and Sikhs that were muderously displaced in India that makes it the crime of the century? If you want to return to the good old days of the Ottoman Empire, then restore the Indian Subcontinent to its pre-partition state as well. Simples.
Exactly. Where's the debate on ' apartheid and genocide ' across the expanse of failed, immiserated Islamist and communist hellholes?? How about the Syrian genocide?? Or Sudan??
@Jouantiese What about the Uyghurs, the afghani people, the yazidis, Nigerians, Somalians. What is it with people that only focus on Israel and their right to exist. They clearly have no idea about global human rights being violated and genocide.
Why is the Holocaust so often debated when it pales in comparison to so many other crimes against humanity? Because geographical and cultural distance matter.
@@SweBeach2023 You don't see the strangeness of an event that displaced 700,000 people being regarded as the crime of the 20th century while an event that affected 5,000,000 is taken in everybody else's stride? You don't question why that has happened?
I don't know why those idiots in the audience booed when the speaker mentioned the FACT that Hamas stole the food. I have seen the video footage of Hamas terrorists on top of aid trucks stealing the food. They should try searching for that video and watching it. They should also listen to the testimonies of Gazan civilians who said that Hamas shot at them when they tried to get some food. The students in the audience clearly don't care about THOSE Gazan civilians... If they cared then they would believe their testimonies. They either haven't heard their testimonies or they have heard them but they chose to IGNORE what the civilians say because it doesn't fit their false narrative. If the people booing in the audience were sincere then they would look for as much video footage as they could and watch all of it to get the facts, but based on their childish behaviour it's pretty obvious they don't care about facts. 🤦♂🤦♂
They couldn’t care less about those civilians. You pointing that out makes them uncomfortable because it’s not socially acceptable to publicly admit you’re using these people and enjoy watching them suffer bc it makes you hate the Jews even more each time.
of course they don’t. and they don’t care about Arabs whatsoever. they only care - in a negative, rejectionist, annihilationist way - for the Jews and anything Jewish, including, first and foremost, the Jewish state.
@ I mean to be honest I just want to hear everyone’s opinions. I can listen to someone I disagree with here. But I would like to hear other people speak. Having listened to a few other debates before, many of the ones where it is regarding people’s lives get particularly heated. So I wouldn’t say it’s embarrassing, it’s just a product of being human. We care about human lives and if we see (what we view as) injustice, it can anger people to see people defend that injustice. It’s only natural it would get a little rowdy. It just seemed the gentleman who was removed crossed a particular line.
I'm so disappointed in the Oxford Union. I usually look forward to the debates. The debates are diminished by skewing the debates and makes the experience meaningless. Shame on the president of the Union...
@Astral.etheric actually everything he said was accurate. Maybe you're confused because the hall was packed with moron activists who were there to be heard and not listen. Can you name one statement that wasn't factual?
The art of debate is clearly lost, it’s been gradually eroded over time, but listening to this, it’s so obvious and confronting…. Where to now? Who is deciding ?
Yikes. Thank you for standing up for the truth... Sadly I hear the recalcitrant cogs of the minds of those who have encountered this information for the first time.
Really frightening to see the level and direction that the world is going in and it is shocking to see the abusive behaviour at the Oxford Union debate.
I applaud your well presented argument against the motion. Miko Peled's response was absolutely vile and full of unfiltered hate, yet that view is what prevailed . Shocking.
Can't believe they admitted some of these people as students. Must have been to fill some quota or other. They talk in Wokespeak, not factual, reasoned English.
Everything about this "debate" was a total disgrace - a damning indictment on what has happened to what used to be a great education system. Nothing but a mindless, screaming, hate-filled mob.
Dear Jonathan you will need personal security to stay alive, look at the hate those "students" are showing... but imagine the real terrorist who don´t want to let you talk who may do anything to stop you, since what you are saying is very important.
This was more than merely interrupting and being disrespectful. It was, in my opinion, a clear demonstration of how useless these “esteemed” institutions have become. They are not only irrelevant at this point; recent alumni would be wise to consider leaving them off a resume and replacing with a community college diploma instead. What a shame.
and if anyone wants to know hoe antisemitic shoutings in the universitys of germany in the late 20ths sounded- open your ears. Nobody will be able to say he did not know this time afterwards.
Of course, by such shrieking they give immediate proofs what he says is true. He cant be allowed to say that, also what he says is too dangerous to them and the public opinion.
Thank you for trying - thank you for fighting for us. I’m so sorry this happened - the Arab community has so much to learn from Yosef and Mosab as well
That people who are so limited in their thinking can possibly have been accepted into a top British university is totally beyond me. Jonathan is a hero of truth.
Im a little surprised they essentially let him talk undisturbed. At least in the beginning. English audiences has a tradition of disturbing - compare the parliament speeches, so this isnt much worse... But Later on the wild shrieking began.
Please look at footage of the civilian population in germaqny or the UK at the end of WW2 and compare that to the footage we receive from Gaza and ask yourself again who has experienced hunger? The truth is sometimes in front of your eyes and clear to see.
Why? Why doesnt he respond to "it was under siege" after the 2005 withdrawal? The restrictions stsrted 2 years later. In 2005 the western exc4. s3s were ran out of. Please, it needs to be tackled
Sacerdoti has guts. I don’t think I would have had the courage to be in that room, let alone try to speak before these jeering, derisive, snide, ignorant people.
Any consideration of the whole Gaza situation that does not take into account the "Abraham Accords" side of things is only rooted in very shallow soil.
Mr Sacerdoti made a good argument, they just didn´t want anything going against their "religion" - the pal "cause", and probably islamism as well. Otherwise, why would they shout abuse in Arabic in the Oxford debating Union ... Just, shame on both them and the organizers of the event.
The Union itself may post the entire debate, but Jonathan Sacerdoti may not be able to for legal reasons relating to intellectual property rights (the Union owns the broadcasting rights) and to the Terrorism Act 2006 (some parts could prejudice any future trials).
a debate while in every moment the crowd interrupts and curses the speakers, that is not the way a debate should go. but all that mean sh't with the simple facts, the war will be over with all the hostages home. and hizballa payed heavily for their attacks on israel.
"I would like to see how Israel lost the debate", if this is how you approach a debate you are not actually engaging in thinking, but enforcing your own bias.
Wow. Those people are completely insane. I'm so sorry that you had to experience that vitriol, Jonathan, but I am very impressed with you for having the courage to stand up to the lunacy of hatred.
The terrifying thing is these are the future leaders of the country.
Well spoken Jonathan ! Shame on those heckling you-
I applaud you for speaking so well in front of all the abuse
Hate is more powerful than facts to those who hate.
Facts are like kryptonite to Zionist shills. Their antics are akin to those of science deniers.
My word! Why host a 'debate' about anything if you do not allow to it be one? Why pretend to engage critically with the topic? They started shrieking before he'd even really said much. Academia is very much divided on these issues and the ICJ itself listens to both sides, so why are a group of 20-something students at the Oxford Union not worthy of it? Even if you vehemently disagree, listening to and understanding opposing views helps you to better articulate your own case. Isn't that the point of university?
I think it's less to do with the Oxford Union and much more to do with that most people there are Middle Easterners. The people of the Middle East have _always_ been like this, whatever their sectarian background
@@splinterbyrd Precisely ! The benefits of UNDERSTANDING concepts of logic, reason, and debate, have YET to be bequeathed by a much needed period of "Enlightenment"
Until then, that culture is based on domination by who can shout loudest or even threatening v**olence
And these people are the future elite. Very worrying.
@@splinterbyrd their origin is no excuse for their uncivilized behavior
It wasn't a debate - it was a far-left/Islamist rally, and they invited a few Jews along to be the focal point for the mob's hate.
The crowd believes they are at a professional wrestling arena, not an Oxford debate
They haven't got time for pro-genocide propagandists. Good on them.
The mob was mostly Muslim - explains it.
Useful idiots scream, 'lies', whenever they encounter facts that don't prop up their fictional narrative.
They are not useful idiots. The majority in the crowd were pro Hamas Jihadists.
This was so hard to listen to. I am not Jewish and I am afraid of the direction our world once again seems to be taking. You did an excellent job of staying calm and getting your points across in front of such a hostile audience. Thank you, Jonathan. Am Yisrael chai.
Thank you 🙏
Russians are spreading same lies about Ukraine, as Jihadist are telling about Israel
Yet you speak Hebrew 😂
Its so crazy how clear as day its a Jen on side. These monsters need to be stopped immediately. For all those that speak up about it. Thank you
He has balls. I hope id be able to do that but being honest w myself I prob wouldn’t be able to in reality or start crying at some point or something
Remember - these kids have been indoctrinated from primary school.
Indoctrinated to treat all people as humans. Must be very uncomfortable for you.
@@Jouantiese yeah many of them believe the wanton slaughter of human beings is morally wrong, it's like they're not even demons 😁
I agree. Kids today have been taught a falsehood. Your war crimes are well documented because your people are happily showing the murder they commit on social media. Grow a heartbeat and a moral compass.
You wish. The reality, of course, is that they've been witness to the world's most documented - in real-time - genocide and the apartheid reality has become more well known due to all the major human rights organisations declaring it as such, culminating with the announcement by the ICJ. The highest legal authority on the planet.
Right…but your generation that had no access to internet growing up or live social media footage, having to rely on whatever the news said, totally aren’t indoctrinated 💀
You are a hero for standing up to these ignorant bullies. Thank you for speaking up for truth. Please keep going and may God give you strength.
Israel is clearly an Arphatheid state. However, israels crimes against humanity do not mount to a genocide.
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Hilarious.
Am utterly ashamed of these loathsome & ignorant so-called students.
If you keep repeating your claims, some might actually believe you. Most will look at the facts instead.
They read...it sounds like you never picked up a book. Try it
@@jchan9761 This is the problem. The Leftists look at the "facts" that come from Hamas. Sensible people look at the actual facts on the ground, not what the terrorists say, member the hospital with 500 killed, you know the one, the one where it took the Fake News BBC 6+ hours to report the obvious truth that was all over social media and we could literally see the lies live. Also worth noting that that rocket killed 5-15 palistinians and was fired by "Islamic Jihad" (Comrades of Hamas) at Israel, it failed, Fake News erupted from Hamas, picked up on by all of the Leftist "news" like the BBC. that is just one example. Unless you wake up soon, you will get a shock when reality hits.
@@SilentMoment60Of course they read, nothing but Hamas and Palestinian propaganda that is.
If you are to actually read the primary sources, see reports from both sides of the conflict and consider how reality works, you will not be making your comment.
Israel has no history but a criminal record...
Stealing land
Thank you for your courage in the face of such hostility. The truth will eventually prevail!
They are a bunch of entrenched bigots.
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Yes, the Zionists victim card has reached it's expiration. Fun fact: US News and World Report (owned by a Jew) ranked Israel in 2021 as the fifth most racist country of 196 on earth. Over 60% of Israeli Jews believe Jews are superior to non jews.
Sometimes I feel that defending ourselves in these forums feeds into the dynamic of the haters. As if we need to excuse and justify our right to exist. They all know that these are lies. They enjoy seeing us abused and gaslighted, while begging for them to stop abusing us. No different than any toxic relationship
You are leaving out those that can be persuaded to your side. The silent ones that listen as opposed to the noisy that will not
It's insulting to discuss Israel's "right to exist".
see it differently: Israeli soldiers fight for Israels existence, young men give their life for that. We are on the 8th front of Israels war; the propaganda war, doing our very tiny bit, risking very little. We should be proud to do our bit, however little it may seem to us.
Hamas very obviously relied on propaganda and support from the lefties / wokies / islamists in the west, all along them waging war and holding the hostages. Who knows what would have happened, had they not had all that? Who is to say it wouldn´t all have been over with a lot sooner, if the US didn´t have to navigate the opposition within, not to mention the UK and the European countries. The Hamas´propaganda war on the west, together with the wokies (for simpilicity) cheering them on in the west, really worked. Giving up, letting them go on, won´t work, both for Israel, and for our own countries, we can make our voices heard. Address their toxicity, confront them with facts.
Or, if you´re not in combattive mood, post a simple ❤Israel, Am Israel chai (long live Israel) They hate that.
@@benqurayza7872 you're an antisemite. Plain and simple.
If justifying your right to exist means slauthering tens of thousands of children and babies calling them human animals or terrorists and wiping another group in its entirity, well then I reckon the world has the right to question the morality and condemn your actions
As far am concerned any one who describes the war started by Hamas in Gaza as genocide is not only an anti-Semite but highly ignorant of the true meaning of genocide which is clearly stated in the dictionary.
Per voi, ormai, sono TUTTI antisemiti: la corte penale internazionale, unhwra, ONU e chiunque provi a fare notare che quanto sta accadendo a Gaza è inaccettabile.
Purtroppo i presupposti genocidari ci sono tutti, ma se vuoi credere alle frottole di Netanyahu...
Hamas' invasion (which was in itself a false flag event) was a hostage-taking situation, not an attempted genocide. People in an open air concentration camp are hardly in a position to start a war with their persecutors.
@@daveparkes2355 500,000+ killed in Syria - silence.
377,000+ killed in Yemen - silence.
5,400,000+ killed in Congo - silence.
236,000+ killed in Afghanistan - silence.
500,000+ killed in Sudan - silence.
300,000+ killed in Iraq - silence.
350,000+ killed in Nigeria - silence.
40,000+ killed in Gaza - extreme outrage. (Very strange how Abduls get
riled up and Liberals follow suit only when Israel defends itself.)
@daveparkes2355 oh, get out of here with your "open air concentration camp" with all the luxury hotels, beaches, gold market and iPhones in Gaza
@@daveparkes2355 7 / 10 wasnt really a genocide, its true. I think he said so to give an illustration of the scenes common in a purposeful genocide. No such scenes are done by idf inside of Gaza, even if its very true, people are dying en masse inside of Gaza.
I applaud Mr. Sacerdoti's bravery to continue speaking, in the face of the incessant heckling and cursing. It's difficult for me even listen to it, let alone imagine what it was like to try to speak in such a forum.
The "apartheid" accusation, I believe, started in 2001 at the Durban Conference. Ironically, that occurred almost right after Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered Yassir Arafat a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza, which Arafat puzzlingly refused, and instead initiated the Second Intifada.
If Chairman Arafat had accepted PM Barak's offer, Israel would have ended the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, and all accusations of Israel being guilty of apartheid would be moot.
It seems that most of the young ‘educated elite’ HAVE lost their “sense of reason “ that Jonathan tries to appeal to in such a dignified manner. We seem to be revisiting an era that we hoped wouldn’t return. Last time we had nowhere to turn. This time we do.
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I suspect that the young educated were outraged at Jonathan's bare-faced lying.
@ my truth is your lies. You haven’t won anything and neither have I .
@@charleslsegal The truth is Universal. Liars are playing a sick game.
Great speech! I hope that even those who screemed "lies" will come home and think a bit more about what they have heard, and maybe this will give a little move to their brains. Thank you! From Israel with ❤
The university should be held accountable for tolerating this level of hate from its students.
The Oxford Union is not affiliated with the university, it is a separate organisation.
@@isobelsmummy Then why are they allowed to use university premises?
😭 I'm sorry you had such abuse
Disgusting behaviour
Makes my 💔
Tens of thousands of dead people upsets them for some reason
@@xmathmanxIsrael is fighting a war it did not start for her survival.
The number of deaths on the Gazan side has been inflated by Hamas.
@geertje1947 you're a psychopath, killing 17000 women and children is not a war, just a demonic evil slaughter
@@geertje1947 yes it did. It did start the war when when it came as refugee beggars and then ousted the natives.
@@xmathmanx Don't start wars then.
Thank you Jonathan.
These so called students are no longer able to listen and debate. And this is supposed to be Oxford. This is totally appalling.
They are totally brainwashed by false distorted lying propaganda.
@steviethedog Absolutely agree, it makes me fear that this generation will become future lawyers, judges, corporate executives etc with their distorted opinions and biased hatred.
Maybe because this guy's arguments are such utter nonsense rooted in some alternate reality.
It's a fact that Israel is an apartheid state. It fits the definition perfectly.
And it's a fact that they are currently carrying out a genocide.
These things need not be debated, and when clowns try to dispute reality they should be heckled, mocked and dismissed.
@@LooseOrangeJuice
Keep speaking the TRUTH
@@LooseOrangeJuicewhat fact? State the fact.
Kol hakavod. That was very difficult to listen to. I cannot imagine the strength it took for you to maintain your composure. As per usual, you were articulate and on point. Thank you for the amazing work that you do.
It was hard to listen to because he's so full of it. Good on the union for rejecting this nonsense and labeling Israel what it is: an ethno-state that oppresses Palestinians and works to kill or purge them from the land.
The world will not turn a blind eye to this any longer. Free Palestine.
He is a seasoned and talented liar for Hitlerland/Israel.
Boy Jonathan, you have some balls giving that speech to those woke morons…. I wish someday I’ll be able to share your optimism for the other sides ability to reason
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Patience of a saint.
Who are these idiots that are heckling and behaving in this way? Students? How on earth did they get into university? I thought you had to have a bit of intelligence.
It’s the result of a misunderstood idea of DEI.
People offended that genocide deniers are permitted into their university. That line about counting calories in Gaza was some next level repulsive.
@@SuperKripke Any consideration of the issue that does not include the Abraham Accords side of things is shallow and not worthy of serious consideration.
@@egapnala65 So genocide is justified because Israel is now friends with Bahrain and the UAE?
Educational standards have been eroded for the last 30-40 years such that students even in the top universities these days are on a similar cerebral level to the Secondary Modern sink schools of the 1970s. The fact that so many of these students have origins from backward societies is of no surprise.
What does it say of your education system if your best and brightest can't figure out who the bad guys were on Oct 7..
they are ideologically captured, wokism is a child of marxism, and totalitarian from the start. The shouting out tactic isn´t by chance
And in the year since that the good guys killed about 40000 people? That's your argument?
lol😂 how about before 7th of October?? They been under blockade for 17 years by air, sea and land. They were being bombed and shot at for years before 7th of October
@faisalsaid7321 really? Tell me how they built tunnels and have so much arms.
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Irrelevant question. Tell us how many Palestinians have been murdered since Oct 8th, why there are no schools, mosques, hospitals, homes, basic infrastructure, etc left. Why are so many children found with sniper shots to the head and chest?
Israel is and always has been a racist, apartheid, settler, colonial state born on the bodies of murdered Palestinians. Shameful.
Those 278 people who believe Israel is guilty of apartheid and genocide will one day be powerful voices in British life. Anybody looking forward to that future?
Hope they make the future that will be amazing
The world is changing. People are turning away from elite universities. They've all been indoctrinated. Those 278 students will wind up in the dustbin of history, laughed at and ridiculed as they dare to laugh at & ridicule those who stood there bravely & spoke truth & facts in the face of their heinous hatred & lies. 278 lost souls who are going no where very fast.
Me. Israel is irrefutably guilty of apartheid and almost certainly genocide. This speaker is a liar.
@@zeyadghanim8271they are living proof of why Israel must prevail.
@@zeyadghanim8271 Look at what's going on in Syria today - a preview of the "amazing future"
Turned out that Oxford is NOT "better than that," NOT "smarter than that," & NOT "open to hearing different views." Over a year later these people are just more cemented into their fictions. THANK YOU FOR YOU WORK, Jonathan.
@zeldasydney9138 The United Kingdom needs a Trump to impose penalties on all university principals. They must be held accountable and responsible.
@@magentamagenta1274 not gonna happen bub. UK is not stupid yet
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@@magentamagenta1274get lost with that crap
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Did you seriously just share an Al Jazeera video?
They were not there to listen. You however, did brilliantly and held such admirable respect and patience. Bravo. Oxford should be ashamed at this arrangement.
Jonathan’s spot on in his speech. It’s shocking how students aren’t accepting the facts about what’s really going on.
God bless you Jonathan Sacerdoti for Trying to Talk Sense to Such Appalling Barbarians
1. Privileged Dismissal: The treatment of Yoseph Haddad reflects a privileged attitude where outsiders assume moral authority over complex issues without valuing the lived experiences of those directly involved.
2. Racism and Bias: By dismissing Haddad’s voice as an Arab Israeli, the Oxford Union displayed an undercurrent of racism, ignoring the diversity of perspectives within Arab and Israeli communities.
3. Tokenism: Inviting Haddad to speak but sidelining or silencing him suggests performative inclusion rather than a genuine effort to engage with differing viewpoints.
4. Selective Outrage: The Union’s focus on Israel, while neglecting comparable issues elsewhere, highlights double standards and a tendency to oversimplify complex realities.
5. Reality of Terrorism: Hassan Nasrallah, as the leader of Hezbollah, has been directly linked to the killing of Americans and is widely recognized as a terrorist. Expressing offense at Haddad’s critique of Nasrallah reflects either ignorance of this fact or a skewed moral stance.
6. Missed Opportunity for Dialogue: Silencing Haddad prevented meaningful discussion and reinforced polarization, rather than fostering understanding or empathy.
Wow, what an amazing speech, despite the disruptions of irrational shouting public…so set in their views. Not worthy of the position of “student”.
In purely historical terms the whole Israel situation pales into insignificance alongside the pretty much simultaneous creation of Pakistan, Kashmir and Bangladesh. What is it about the displacement of 700,000 Arabs when placed alongside the 5,000,000 Hindus and Sikhs that were muderously displaced in India that makes it the crime of the century? If you want to return to the good old days of the Ottoman Empire, then restore the Indian Subcontinent to its pre-partition state as well. Simples.
Exactly. Where's the debate on ' apartheid and genocide ' across the expanse of failed, immiserated Islamist and communist hellholes?? How about the Syrian genocide?? Or Sudan??
Restore the Mauryan Empire.
@Jouantiese What about the Uyghurs, the afghani people, the yazidis, Nigerians, Somalians. What is it with people that only focus on Israel and their right to exist. They clearly have no idea about global human rights being violated and genocide.
Why is the Holocaust so often debated when it pales in comparison to so many other crimes against humanity? Because geographical and cultural distance matter.
@@SweBeach2023 You don't see the strangeness of an event that displaced 700,000 people being regarded as the crime of the 20th century while an event that affected 5,000,000 is taken in everybody else's stride? You don't question why that has happened?
You don't video to see that a portion of your audience are behaving like rabid animals in reaction to facts and truth. Thank you for your bravery.
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I don't know why those idiots in the audience booed when the speaker mentioned the FACT that Hamas stole the food. I have seen the video footage of Hamas terrorists on top of aid trucks stealing the food. They should try searching for that video and watching it. They should also listen to the testimonies of Gazan civilians who said that Hamas shot at them when they tried to get some food. The students in the audience clearly don't care about THOSE Gazan civilians... If they cared then they would believe their testimonies.
They either haven't heard their testimonies or they have heard them but they chose to IGNORE what the civilians say because it doesn't fit their false narrative. If the people booing in the audience were sincere then they would look for as much video footage as they could and watch all of it to get the facts, but based on their childish behaviour it's pretty obvious they don't care about facts. 🤦♂🤦♂
"the narrative" trump facts, easily. It is their religion and reason to breathe.
They couldn’t care less about those civilians. You pointing that out makes them uncomfortable because it’s not socially acceptable to publicly admit you’re using these people and enjoy watching them suffer bc it makes you hate the Jews even more each time.
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@@WUB0105Shame, still peddling the same propaganda. It's not a good look 😂
of course they don’t. and they don’t care about Arabs whatsoever. they only care - in a negative, rejectionist, annihilationist way - for the Jews and anything Jewish, including, first and foremost, the Jewish state.
Do you have a recording of the entire debate? I’d like to hear the whole thing if possible.
Me too. They haven't released it yet, including the part and reason why Yousef Haddad was kicked out.
@ I have a feeling that it may take a while to come out if it was particularly rowdy.
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You're probably right. It sounds quite embarassing for Oxford from this bit.
@ I mean to be honest I just want to hear everyone’s opinions. I can listen to someone I disagree with here. But I would like to hear other people speak.
Having listened to a few other debates before, many of the ones where it is regarding people’s lives get particularly heated. So I wouldn’t say it’s embarrassing, it’s just a product of being human. We care about human lives and if we see (what we view as) injustice, it can anger people to see people defend that injustice. It’s only natural it would get a little rowdy. It just seemed the gentleman who was removed crossed a particular line.
Open question. Could be a month or more. There's usually weeks long wait before they upload. I wonder how much will be censored too
Appalling how they refuse to face the truth
Jonathan kudos to you.Well done and your team.The level of hate in the room was palpable.The Lord bless and protect you.Amen
I'm so disappointed in the Oxford Union. I usually look forward to the debates. The debates are diminished by skewing the debates and makes the experience meaningless. Shame on the president of the Union...
If someone didn’t know better they’d think this is some public hall in not the best of neighborhoods
Bravo!
My god. These people are absolutely mental. As soon as you started giving stronh arguments, they started with the screaming and insults.
How are you so patient? Amazing job. ❤ Unfortunately the ship of logic and common sense has sailed a long time ago.
Literally nothing he said was factual
@Astral.etheric actually everything he said was accurate. Maybe you're confused because the hall was packed with moron activists who were there to be heard and not listen. Can you name one statement that wasn't factual?
@Astral.etheric actually everything he said was accurate. Can you name one statement that wasn't factual?
Thank you Jonathan
The art of debate is clearly lost, it’s been gradually eroded over time, but listening to this, it’s so obvious and confronting…. Where to now? Who is deciding ?
They will not release the debate on youtube
My old university disgracing itself. Deeply shaming.
Yikes. Thank you for standing up for the truth... Sadly I hear the recalcitrant cogs of the minds of those who have encountered this information for the first time.
Really frightening to see the level and direction that the world is going in and it is shocking to see the abusive behaviour at the Oxford Union debate.
where is the video of the debate?
I applaud your well presented argument against the motion. Miko Peled's response was absolutely vile and full of unfiltered hate, yet that view is what prevailed . Shocking.
Unreal. You're a hero. Courageous, cool-headed and articulate. Thank you!!!
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Can't believe they admitted some of these people as students. Must have been to fill some quota or other. They talk in Wokespeak, not factual, reasoned English.
I am here to appeal to your sense of reason - not a chance
Everything about this "debate" was a total disgrace - a damning indictment on what has happened to what used to be a great education system.
Nothing but a mindless, screaming, hate-filled mob.
Dear Jonathan you will need personal security to stay alive, look at the hate those "students" are showing... but imagine the real terrorist who don´t want to let you talk who may do anything to stop you, since what you are saying is very important.
חזק ואמץ!
That couldn't have been easy. Disgraceful how the standards of ethics and good manners of debate have fallen.
This was more than merely interrupting and being disrespectful. It was, in my opinion, a clear demonstration of how useless these “esteemed” institutions have become. They are not only irrelevant at this point; recent alumni would be wise to consider leaving them off a resume and replacing with a community college diploma instead. What a shame.
The crowd is simply a mob
it would have been interesting to see which people were jeering and interrupting throughout his speech.WE CAN PROBABLY GUESS.
Who would you guess those people to be out of curiosity?
@ PRO TERRORIST,ANTI SEMITES,ANTI ISRAEL,And ANTI WEST.
@ THE SAME AS YOU.
@@bloodcircle3885 "youths on scooters"
It's embarrassing listening to the children shouting and swearing when confronted with the facts.
Utterly pathetic!
Facts ? 😂😂😂😂😂
I would have so much worse to this dude that swear.
and if anyone wants to know hoe antisemitic shoutings in the universitys of germany in the late 20ths sounded- open your ears. Nobody will be able to say he did not know this time afterwards.
Of course, by such shrieking they give immediate proofs what he says is true. He cant be allowed to say that, also what he says is too dangerous to them and the public opinion.
Sounds like the room is full of laughing hyenas.
Thank you for trying - thank you for fighting for us. I’m so sorry this happened - the Arab community has so much to learn from Yosef and Mosab as well
That people who are so limited in their thinking can possibly have been accepted into a top British university is totally beyond me. Jonathan is a hero of truth.
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Cool story.
What a barnyard Oxford has become!
Wow. This is so sad and frightening.
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in 2030 these debates won't even be allowed as the muslim population increasesa and society adopts the fascist countenance of middle-east.
With this public, you absolutely understand why it is such a hell in places fully crowded by such a kind!
Jonathan amazing speech and self control.
עם ישראל חי,🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
I not9ce they haven't posted anything yet .. it will be interesting to see if they have the guts to publish this footage or if they sanitise it.
Where are the videos of the rest of the speakers! Is this YT or OU censorship?
One of the speakers posted his own talk. He’s not the organizer. I hope the organizers do post the whole thing.
Im a little surprised they essentially let him talk undisturbed. At least in the beginning. English audiences has a tradition of disturbing - compare the parliament speeches, so this isnt much worse... But Later on the wild shrieking began.
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Why is it audio only ? Also, where can we see the whole debate.?
My guess is that Oxford didnt release anything from that debate yet, and that this recording was done privately by the speaker.
Please look at footage of the civilian population in germaqny or the UK at the end of WW2 and compare that to the footage we receive from Gaza and ask yourself again who has experienced hunger? The truth is sometimes in front of your eyes and clear to see.
If you want to be taken seriously don't stand next to trolls like Yoseph Haddad and psychos like Mosab Hassan Yousef. Really doesn't help your cause.
Thank you very much!!!
Reminds me of some local trade union meetings that I chaired.
is the whole debate online somewhere? Will it be? Do you know please?
Why? Why doesnt he respond to "it was under siege" after the 2005 withdrawal? The restrictions stsrted 2 years later. In 2005 the western exc4. s3s were ran out of. Please, it needs to be tackled
According to this boy, any debate that is pro Israel is good and any that is against Israel is bad.
people are entitled to have their own opinion, get used to it.
This is not Iran or Gaza where people are afraid to have opinions.
Thank you
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Sacerdoti has guts. I don’t think I would have had the courage to be in that room, let alone try to speak before these jeering, derisive, snide, ignorant people.
It's just a simple matter of facts, easy to demonstrate.
When are they goimg to upload the video?
Why aren't many of them speaking English. Are they actual citizens?
Well spoken Jonathan in light of this hostile and deaf audience!
There are many notional British citizens who speak no English. Or simply choose not to.
A product of our failed multi-cultural experiment.
Where can we watch the full debate?
Histeric students enable to think...
Any consideration of the whole Gaza situation that does not take into account the "Abraham Accords" side of things is only rooted in very shallow soil.
Mr Sacerdoti made a good argument, they just didn´t want anything going against their "religion" - the pal "cause", and probably islamism as well. Otherwise, why would they shout abuse in Arabic in the Oxford debating Union ... Just, shame on both them and the organizers of the event.
Where’s the full event man? I am not interested in what you picked and chose.
Congratulations on standing and listening to such hatred
please, may i know if anyone can send the live of oxford union debate?
just search "pogrom"
I like to see the Video of this Debate. Anybody know where is the Video of this Debate?
Why can’t we see the whole debate, I would like to see how Israel lost the debate? It is not very democratic not to show the whole debate !
The Union itself may post the entire debate, but Jonathan Sacerdoti may not be able to for legal reasons relating to intellectual property rights (the Union owns the broadcasting rights) and to the Terrorism Act 2006 (some parts could prejudice any future trials).
a debate while in every moment the crowd interrupts and curses the speakers, that is not the way a debate should go.
but all that mean sh't with the simple facts, the war will be over with all the hostages home. and hizballa payed heavily for their attacks on israel.
"I would like to see how Israel lost the debate", if this is how you approach a debate you are not actually engaging in thinking, but enforcing your own bias.
Nice speech